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Chairman Morales called a Regular meeting of the Planning Commission to order on November 6, 2013,
at 6:40 pm, at Downey City Hall, 11111 Brookshire Avenue, Downey, CA. After the Flag Salute, roll was
called.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Matias Flores, District 4
Jim Rodriguez, District 5
Robert Kiefer, District 2, Vice Chairman
Louis Morales, District 3, Chairman
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Hector Lujan, District 1
OTHERS PRESENT: Brian Saeki, Director of Community Development
Yvette Abich-Garcia, City Attorney
William Davis, City Planner
David Blumenthal, Senior Planner
Kevin Nguyen, Assistant Planner
L Mary Cavanagh, Secretary
PLANNING COMMISSIONER ANNOUNCEMENTS; REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS; AND
CONFERENCE/MEETING REPORTS: None
PRESENTATIONS: None
REPORT ON CITY COUNCIL ACTION: None
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. PLN-13-00174 (Conditional Use Permit): Chairman Morales opened the public hearing for PLN-13-
00174, and Ms. Cavanagh affirmed proof of publication.
Assistant Planner Kevin Nguyen began his PowerPoint presentation of a request by the Palms Steak and
Seafood Restaurant located at 8060 Florence Ave, zoned CP (Professional Office), which operates with
an Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC) Type 47 license, to add live entertainment activities. Mr. Nguyen
stated that he is concerned with the noise and increased traffic that may affect the apartments to the east
of the subject site. Mr. Nguyen advised the Commissioners that he had two received letters from the
public in opposition to the request, which he included in the staff report, and three additional at the
beginning of the meeting, which were distributed to the Commissioners. Mr. Nguyen mentioned that he
added another condition that requires the applicant to return in six months for a review by the Planning
Commission. Based on the analysis contained in the staff report, staff is recommending approval of the
request, subject to conditions of approval.
The Commissioners reviewed the letters distributed by staff, and discussed the following with Mr. Nguyen
and staff:
1) Zoning, 2) Parcels abutting the subject site, 3) Parking, 4) Entrances and exits, 5) Security, 6) Potential
impact to the neighbors, 7) The hours of operation, 8) Live entertainment.
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Sergeant Dan Samano, Downey Police Department, advised the Commissioners that there have been 19
calls made in reference to the subject site, most of which were noise complaints. He continued by saying
that there have also been complaints of fights, breaking glass, and urinating in the parking lot located
directly behind the building. The noise complaints are referencing people exiting and entering the
building or parking lot, and loitering in the back of the building.
Applicant/owner Joel Florian Jr. [sic], stated that the music from the restaurant cannot be heard in the
parking lot. There is a "Party Bus" almost every night from a neighboring business that shares the same
lot. Mr. Florian stated that the bus picks up their guests in the parking lot of his restaurant during the
evening hours to take them to nightclubs in other cities. It returns approximately 2:30 am, dropping off
their guests in the parking lot. The people return intoxicated and tend to loiter in the parking lot making
noise and causing disturbances. Mr. Florian believes most of the disturbances are patrons of the "Party
Bus" service, not from the guests of his restaurant. He has two security guards on duty (8:00 pm to
approximately 3:00 am), one placed inside the restaurant, and the other is outside. They have a strict
dress code and check for weapons at the door. In the past there were problems with vandalism to the
cars in the lot; however, there has been improvement in that regard since he brought in security to patrol
the parking lot. Mr. Florian met with the Downey Police Chief to discuss the number of calls. They
determined that there were no calls from the restaurant. There were a lot of calls for vandalism on
Western Ave, not far from his restaurant.
The Commissioners asked Sgt. Samano for clarification regarding calls that may have occurred from the
guests of a neighboring business that share the same parking lot with the applicant. Sgt. Samano
responded by saying that the call or report would be shown as the address associated with the parking
lot.
The Commissioners asked Mr. Florian how often these party buses meet in the restaurant parking lot and
where do they park; are any parked in front of the restaurant? Mr. Florian responded by saying that he
has seen the buses parked in the parking lot Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday. The bus picks
the people up around 10:00 pm and returns as late as 3:00 am. The buses parking in the front of the
restaurant are smaller buses for the bands hired by the restaurant, and on the nights they do not have a
band, the employees of the restaurant park in front of the building so that their patrons will park in the
parking lot to enter at the rear of the building as they lock the doors of the front of the building at 6:00 pm.
The Commissioners asked staff if they were aware of a Party Bus business operating in that area. Mr.
Nguyen stated that staff is not aware of this business. Sgt. Samano added that the Downey Police
Department is aware of the buses being at that location, but there is no knowledge of them operating a
business there.
Phillip Trujillo, 12016 Western Ave, Downey, stated that commotion is a daily problem from 2:30 am to
3:30 am from people exiting the building, not from inside the restaurant. It comes from the parking lot of
the restaurant, not from the vacant lot which is behind the restaurant parking lot. The bands of the
restaurant practice during their breaks outside making noise from 11:00 pm to 3:00 am. In addition, there
were repairs using an electric saw being done as late as 2:00 am coming from the restaurant.
Kevin Wilkinson, owner of the five-unit complex at 10216 Western Ave, stated that the website "Yelp" has
been advertising the restaurant as having live entertainment since 2011, not only the past few months.
He stated that the residents are affected by the noise from the restaurant during daylight hours as well,
and thanked the Commission and staff for looking into the problem carefully.
Betty Katanjian, owner of 8102 Florence Ave, Downey, stated that the she has tenants residing in this
home which is located across from the restaurant and doesn't think a night club is good for the residents
in the area.
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Evelyn Wilkinson 10216 Western Ave, Downey, stated that she cleans up around the building and has
Lhad to pick up trash that is left in front of her property that is not appropriate for children living there to
see, such as prophylactics, and bottles. She has seen the street sweeper have to stop and get out of his
vehicle to pick up bottles left in the street. Mrs. Wilkinson continued by saying that although she has
seen improvements to the 8060 Florence building, it is not good for the residents to be awakened during
the night by loud music coming from that location; approving this request would attract more violence,
crime, and youths drinking.
Vice Chairman Kiefer asked Mrs. Wilkinson if her tenants have mentioned any buses and if the noise is
coming from the bus or the restaurant. She responded by saying that they have had complaints about
buses and has also observed them coming and going; however she is not sure which one is causing the
noise. She continued by saying that she has seen patrons of the restaurants urinating in public.
Mr. Florian responded to the comments by saying that he understands their concerns; however, no one
can tie it to the restaurants or the buses. He continued by saying that the type of trash described earlier
that is left in the streets occurs everywhere; however, he would be willing to have someone clean the
streets. There has been improvement since he brought in security and not all of the calls of complaints
are from his customers.
Steven Gomez, 9214 Garish Dr, stated that he is a patron of the restaurant and he has never seen a
problem at the restaurant; however, he is familiar with the Party Bus and stated that it is promoted on
Instagram. He stated that the bus picks up people approximately 10:00-10:30 pm and returns
approximately 2:30 am. He said that he believes the noise and the people loitering in the parking lot are
from the buses; the people return drunk and loiter while they are sobering up and sometimes listen to
music in their cars.
Chairman Morales called for a brief recess at 8:00 pm and reconvened at 8:16 pm.
Director of Community Development Brian Saeki read the excerpt from the June 25, 2013 City Council
Meeting as follows:
Community Development Director Saeki stated it was building to building starting from the front
or rear entrance, wherever the noise would be generated from. If the building included public
access from both the front and rear the 100 foot requirement would be from both locations.
Currently there are about 10 properties within the C-P zone that would be allowed to have live
entertainment; Palms Restaurant is included in the 10. He stated CUP's are granted case-by-
case and if there were extenuating circumstances the permit would include specific conditions.
Commissioner Flores stated that he would like to see if conditions could be modified to close or stop the
live entertainment from Monday thru Thursday, and believes further investigation is needed to determine
if the other business that has been operating at the subject site is causing the disruptions.
Commissioner Rodriguez discussed how this location has evolved from its original intent in 1964 to be
professional office, and how it had progressed to adding a restaurant, and has now grown into a
nightclub, which currently is far from its original intent. He disclosed that he visited the subject site with
his wife for dinner on Friday November 1st, from 10:00 pm to Midnite. He was impressed with the security
and spoke to him about the crowds. The security guard advised him that the crowds are older on Friday
nights, but there are younger, rowdy crowds on Saturday and Sunday; therefore he visited the restaurant
again on Sunday from 1:00 am to 1:30 am. Commissioner Rodriguez found it was rowdier and a lot going
on in the street and the back parking lots. He did not see security roaming in the street, and believes that
the parking lots are in need of lighting. Music was not an issue as the hallway from the restaurant to the
office building entrance/exits buffers the sound. He also suggested that the applicant begin a neighbor
friendly policy to clean up the area.
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Vice Chairman Kiefer stated that businesses need a chance to thrive; however, the number one concern
is for the impact to the residents. He is not convinced that all of the problems at the subject site are
resulting from the restaurant. He is in agreement with the suggestion of more restrictions regarding the
hours of operation; however, he would prefer to continue the item to allow staff to investigate the party
bus business that was disclosed at this hearing.
Chairman Morales thanked the public for attending the meeting and for bringing the party bus business to
their attention. He believes that there can be more restrictions regarding the hours for live entertainment
and place conditions for increased security requiring the approval of the Downey Police Department.
The Commissioners discussed the issues brought before them, and decided to continue the public
hearing on this item to November 20, 2013, to allow staff time to further investigate the issues and new
evidence brought up at this hearing. Chairman Morales left the public hearing open.
It was moved by Vice Chairman Kiefer and seconded by Commissioner Rodriguez, and passed by a 4-0-
1 vote, with Commissioner Lujan absent, to continue PLN-13-00174 (Conditional Use Permit) to the
November 20, 2013, Regular meeting of the Planning Commission.
2. PLN-13-0000202 (Conditional Use Permit): Chairman Morales opened the public hearing for PLN-
13-00202, and Ms. Cavanagh affirmed proof of publication.
Assistant Planner Kevin Nguyen began his PowerPoint presentation of the request to allow a used
retail/consignment store, Mr. Luxury, to operate at 11426 Old River School Rd., zoned C-2 (General
Commercial). Mr. Nguyen stated that the store will be buying and selling designer clothes and
accessories and the consignment items will be sold at 50/50 (50% of the sale price will go the private
party seller and 50% to the store). The hours of operation will be from 10:00 am to 6:00 pm Monday thru
Tuesday, Wednesday thru Saturday from 10:00 am to 8:00 pm, and closed on Sunday. Mr. Nguyen is
recommends approval of the application subject to conditions of approval.
The Commissioners asked Mr. Nguyen if there are conditions regarding signage, and how would the
applicant be prevented from operating as a pawn shop. Mr. Nguyen responded by saying that there is a
sign program in place that would dictate the signage. There is a condition that requires the applicant to
obtain a second hand dealers license from the State, which will specify the restrictions of the items being
sold; a Pawn Shop would be a separate State issued license.
Christopher St. Prado [sic] spoke on behalf of applicant Roberto Arredondo, he stated that he read and
agrees to the conditions of approval. He is in the process of obtaining a secondhand dealer license from
the State of California, which will not allow him to sell electronics, appliances, gold, or any precious
metals. He is working with Corporal Doyle of the Downey Police Department, who is working with the
Department of Justice, to obtain a police permit to allow him to sell the used items.
Owner Duayne Alstrom, Tucson, AZ, stated that he is in favor of the request, and believes this store will
make a good mix of tenants.
Chairman Morales closed the public hearing.
It was moved by Commissioner Rodriguez and seconded by Commissioner Flores, and passed by a 4-0-
1 vote, with Commissioner Lujan absent, to adopt Resolution 13-2857, approving the request for a
Conditional Use Permit (PLN-13-00202), subject to the conditions of approval.
3. PLN-13-00192 (Conditional Use Permit): Chairman Morales opened the public hearing for PLN-13-
00192, and Ms. Cavanagh affirmed proof of publication.
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Senior Planner David Blumenthal gave a brief PowerPoint presentation regarding a request to operate a
Lused automobile sales lot at 9844 Paramount Blvd, zoned C-2 (General Commercial). Mr. Blumenthal
stated that the front building will be used for office space and the back building will garage the cars being
prepared for sale. There will be a display area for the cars to the rear of the building; however most of the
sales are internet sales. The hours of operation will be Monday thru Friday from 9:00 am to 5:00 pm.
Conditions are in place regarding required improvements on the site. Based on the analysis contained in
the staff report, staff is recommending approval subject to conditions of approval.
The applicant was not present to respond to inquiries of the Commission.
Sylvia Steele together with Michael Steele spoke in opposition of the request. Ms. Steele stated that she is
the owner of the property to the north of the subject site and stated her concerns with the palm trees that
divide the property and the new landscaping that could possibly cause further damage. Ms. Steele
presented pictures of the property which were distributed to the Commissioners for their review. She
stated that she is not in opposition of the request, but only wished to express her concerns with the
landscaping.
Mr. Blumenthal stated that the intent of the proposed trees along the property was to serve as a barrier; the
planter area can be left open, or have low shrubbery, or some other type of barrier between the properties.
Ms. Steele responded by saying that her insurance company advised her that if the landscaping is too
close to the building it would be considered a fire hazard and her premium would be increased.
Chairman Morales closed the public hearing.
LDue to the absence of the applicant, the Commissioners were not able to render a decision; therefore it
was decided to continue the public hearing on this item to November 20, 2013.
It was moved by Vice Chairman Kiefer and seconded by Commissioner Flores, and passed by a 4-0-1
vote, with Commissioner Lujan absent, to continue PLN-13-00192 (Conditional Use Permit) to the
November 20, 2013, Regular meeting of the Planning Commission.
4. PLN-13-0000196 (Conditional Use Permit): Chairman Morales opened the public hearing for PLN-
13-00196, and Ms. Cavanagh affirmed proof of publication.
City Planner William Davis gave a brief PowerPoint presentation of a request to operate a dance studio at
7320 Firestone Blvd, zoned C-2 (General Commercial). Mr. Davis stated that the applicant is proposing to
have five sessions a day and 30 sessions per week for adults and children, with various dance instruction.
The dance studio hours of operation will occur from 8:00 am to 11:00 am and later in the day from 5:00 pm
to 10:00 pm Monday through Friday and on Saturdays from 11:00 am to 4:00 pm. The property is
surrounded by General Commercial, and residential apartments to the south of the building. Mr. Davis
stated that he is concerned with the noise that would be generated from the music during the classes. He
stated that he took informal sound readings which ranged from 62-65 decibels, between Building A and
Building B (mostly in the corridor). The sound levels to the rear of the property line adjacent to Arnett St.
measured at 55 decibels. In addition, he inspected the subject site and oberserved that there are no door
or window openings on the side or rear elevations. The walls of the tenant space are solid and will
minimize the noise impact; however, the sound could escape through the corridor walls to the parking lot or
residential neighbors to the rear of the building. Therefore, staff has placed conditions to address the
potential noise impact. In addition, the applicant called Mr. Davis today and said that he personally spoke
to the neighbors and brought letters from neighbors in favor of the application. Based on the analysis
contained in the staff report, staff is recommending approval subject to conditions of approval.
Applicant Tomas Olivera, 9613 Samoline Ave, stated that he read, understood and agrees to the conditions
of approval. He said that suite directly below his suite is vacant; therefore, he spoke to the neighbors next
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to his suite and directly below them. He stated that his dance studio will have a variety of dance styles,
such as jazz, tap, ballet, salsa, cumbia, zumba and more. He anticipates classes to have 10-25 students
per session, and added that most of the businesses that surround his suite close between 5:30 — 6:00 pm.
The Commissioners asked Mr. Olivera if this is his first studio, how many instructors will he have and the
types of classes he will teach.
Mr. Olivera responded by saying that this is his first business; he has been formally trained from the age of
12, and has bee a dance instructor for 10 years and has taught classes in the City of Downey during that
time. Most of the adult classes are Latin styles, and the kids are more along, tap, jazz and ballet. He stated
that his research for soundproofing was over $16,000 and to expensive.
The Commissioners discussed the soundproofing with staff and Mr. Davis suggested that condition No. 9
be modified to say:
Within 90 days of the approval of PLN-12-00181, the applicant shall provide sound barrier walls
along any interior walls of this tenant space (Suite 214).
Richard Kil [sic] owner of the subject site stated that he was concerned with having a dance studio at first;
however, after speaking with Mr. Olivera, most of the classes will be after most of the business close. In
addition, he has conditions in the lease agreement to address any issues regarding the noise impact to the
neighbors.
Chairman Morales closed the public hearing.
It was moved by Vice Chairman Kiefer and seconded by Commissioner Flores, and passed by a 4-0-1
vote, with Commissioner Lujan absent, to adopt Resolution 13-2858, approving the request for a
Conditional Use Permit (PLN-13-00196) subject to modified conditions of approval.
NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS: Duayne Alstrom apologized to the Commissioners for not being
truthful at the 10/16/13 Public Hearing, by not informing the staff that his tenants had been operating the
zumba classes in another suite on the same subject parcel. In addition, he stated that he will be
submitting the sign program within a week.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS:
5. Approval of the Minutes from October 2, 2013
It was moved by Commissioner Rodriguez and seconded by Commissioner Flores, and passed by a 4-0-
1 vote, with Commissioner Lujan absent, to approve the Consent Calendar.
OTHER BUSINESS: None
STAFF MEMBER COMMENTS: City Attorney Yvette Abich-Garcia advised the Commissioners that she
is conducting an ethics training class on November 19, 2013 that will meet the Commissioners' ethics
training requirement. The class is also available online.
Director of Community Development Brian Saeki invited everyone to attend the Ground Breaking
Ceremony of the Promenade on November 14, 2013 at 2:00 pm.
ADJOURNMENT: There being no further business to discuss, Chairman Morales adjourned the
meeting at 10:15 pm, to Wednesday, November 20, 2013, at 6:30 pm at Downey City Hall, 11111
Brookshire Ave.
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APPROVED AND ADOPTED this 20th day of November, 2013.
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ouis Mo ales, Chairman
City Pla ning Commission
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I HEREBY CERTIFY that the foregoing Minutes were duly approved at a Regular meeting of the Planning
Commission held on the 20th day of November, 2013, by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Flores, Rodriguez, Kiefer and Morales
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: Lujan
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None
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Mary Cavanagh, Secretary
City Planning Commission
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