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MINUTES OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF DOWNEY
JUNE 7TH, 1961
The City Council of the City of Downey held an adjourned meeting
in the Council Chamber of the Downey City Hall at 8:00 P.M., June 7th,
'-' 1961, Mayor Carroll M. Dunnum presiding.
PRESENT: COUNCILMEN: Giddings, Temple, Corbin, Dunnum
ABSENT: COUNCILMAN: Peavey
ALSO PRESENT: Oren L. King, City Manager
Lee Leavitt, City Engineer
Della Doyle, City Clerk
Alberta Pfeiffer, Deputy City Clerk
Mayor Carroll M. Dunnum announced that this is the time and place
fixed for the public hearing for the matter of whether or not the City
Council should sign a lease with the Los Angeles Airways relative to the
use of the property as a Heliport located on Bellflower immediately north
of Imperial Highway. To preface the meeting, the Mayor reviewed the
chronological sequence of events which have occurred relative to the
problem concerning the Heliport, and a review of what has basically
passed before Council.
4 -23 -59 - City Council was advised that selection of Downey was
approved and certified by the Civil Aeronautics Board for a helicopter
site.
8 -29 -59 - Live Wire article informed people of the use of a
proposed site in Downey for a heliport authorizing approximately $2,000,00
to $4,000.00 for paving and improving the proposed site.
9 -29 -59 - Live Wire article and drawing showing much importance
of this matter, the location thereof and future plans for the development
of the Heliport.
9 -12 -60 - City Council approved contract for purchase of the land
involved and referred in the resolution to a public document and held a
public meeting as the particular site contemplated for heliport purposes.
10 -25 -60 - Resolution 695 passed unanimously by entire City Council
declaring and designating this particular property as a site for a heliport.
9 -29 -60 - Live Wire again carried an article that the forward look
in keeping with the heliport was being strived for and Downey City Council
voted to hire an engineer to design a maintenance yard and keep it in mind
for use as a heliport site.
10 -1 -60 - Signal article - using of particular area, fencing thereof,
housing passengers while waiting for helicopter service, and generally dis-
closing the continued action of the City Council.
11 -1 -60 - Price was established for the heliport site.
10 -3 -60 - The Edison Company stepped forward to help the heliport
program wherein they took it upon themselves to relocate their high tension
or high voltage poles in the immediate area at no expense to the City.
10 -17 -60 - Herald American article and letter from L. A. Airways
wherein the entire program was reviewed and Downey selection for a heliport
site on Bellflower Boulevard, 1000 feet north of Imperial Highway was
officially approved.
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1 -1 -61 - Site and development included in 1961 Public Works
program was discussed.
February 1961 - Public Works Maintenance Yard Building, etc. were
developed. A review of the premises was had again indicating that it was
intended to be used for a heliport site.
3 -6 -61 - Downey Leader carried an article that a final Heliport
report was due the City and that the location may be brought before City
Council at its March 13th meeting.
These actions prefaced a filing of notice before the City Council
that there was some opposition to this matter. As a result, Councilman
Dunnum, as Councilman in the district involved, requested a public hearing
before the City Council relative to this matter.
The issue, stated Mayor Dunnum, is whether or not the City should
sign a lease with the L. A. Airways for the use of the site invoked as
indicated for use of L. A. Airways' helicopters. In accordance with
accepted principles of public dispute, the Mayor stated that there shall
be a normal procedure where affirmative for the issue shall speak first,
the negative rebuttal, secondly; then the affirmative rebuttal followed by
the negative rebuttal to close. Each side will be given the opportunity
to explain their thinking.
Mayor Dunnum asked if there is any written communication relative to
this public hearing.
The City Clerk submitted the following:
Exhibit No.
Dr., Los Angeles
interference.
Exhibit No.
Dobber, Mrs. Phi
Mrs. Robert Kemp
Gauldin School.
1 - A letter from Mrs. K. 0. Thompson, 12301 Stanwood
66, protesting on the grounds of noise and television
2 - A letter signed by Kenneth R. Lopour, Mrs. Charles
11ip Carlson, Mrs. Robert McNeill, Mrs. Donald R. Olson and
relative to the safety of the flight pattern near A. L.
Exhibit No. 3 - A letter from Alameda School District Board of
Trustees opposing on the grounds of safety for the school children.
Exhibit No. 4 - A petition with 84 signatures protesting on the
ground of endangering the school children.
Exhibit No. 1 (Affirmative) - A letter from Mrs. Noel M. Boogaard
stating that for 2 years helicopters flew overhead day and night while her
husband worked at Sikorsky Aircraft, Bridgeport, Connecticut and they were
not even aware of them. She also stated that helicopters had a much safer
history than aeroplanes.
It was moved by Councilman Temple, seconded by Councilman Giddings and
so ordered that these documents be received and filed.
The Mayor asked that, in the interest of time, all speakers avoid
—� repetitious testimony and that each side lead off with a spokesman.
As spokesman for the affirmative, Mr. Harold Tredway, 9315 S. Guata-
mala, Downey, Vice - President and member of the Board of Trustees for the
Downey Chamber of Commerce, stated there are primarily three factors of
concern in the matter of the heliport.
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1. Possible danger
2. Noise
3. Lowering of property values
Mr. Tredway enlarged on each of these points stating that in some
14 years of service there had not been a single accident in the L. A.
Airways System: so far as the noise element goes, there would be little
additional noise over that of the now existing Jet Aircraft and traffic
noise of trucks; and thirdly there is no history to substantiate the
lowering of property values.
Mr. Tredway stated that while he did not feel that any issue
should be evaluated by the number of people for or against but purely
on the issues involved, he was presenting a petition (Exhibit #2 --
affirmative) with 277 signatures obtained merely by an announcement in
the newspaper that such a petition was available at a said place.
He also offered letters from the Chambers of Commerce of the City
of Bellflower (Exhibit #3), City of Paramount (Exhibit #4), endorsing
the heliport in the interest of industrial and commercial developments
and a letter from the Tahitian Village, a new million dollar enterprise
in the City of Downey, stating that it would be of great value to the
community in general.
Mr. Tredway closed by stating that he feels that probably the
persons opposing the heliport may not be in full cognizance of what a
heliport in the City would mean to industry and commerce in the facilities
of mail and express, as well as passenger services.
The Mayor directed that the exhibits presented be accepted and filed.
Mayor Dunnum then called for comments from the opposition requesting
that they limit their comments to 15 minutes, as there were no additional
comments on the affirmative.
Mrs. Robert McNeill, 10246 Belcher Street, stated her concern was for
the safety of the school children and asked if all possible sites had
been explored. Mr. King, City Manager, outlined the various studies that
had been made over the last year and one -half and reported that this one
was the most acceptable in all aspects.
Mrs. Neville Kilpatrick, 11726 S. Corrigan Avenue, objected on the
grounds of security in schools and in her home.
Mr. Kenneth Lopour, Principal of the A. L. Gauldin School, 9724 Spry,
again stated that the schools were concerned about a low level flight
pattern near the school and inquired if it could be written into a contract
a determination as to just where the helicopters would fly so that they
would not endanger the school children on the school grounds.
Mr. James Russell, 12108 Gurley Avenue, presented a news article in the
Santa Monica paper reporting a forced landing stressing the dangers of such
a program.
The following persons protested on the grounds of hazards to school
children, noise and property devaluations - and requested that a flight
pattern be written into the contract or that the heliport be located else-
where.
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Mr. Robert Powell, 12208 Morning Avenue
Kathleen Reeves, 12258 Izetta Avenue
Mrs. Pauline Olson, 10225 Cornuta
Mrs. Barbara Blank, 12339 Izetta
Mr. Jack Carlson, Principal of Imperial
Alameda School District
Patty Carlson, 12218 Izetta
Archie Chisham, 12219 Izetta
Leonard Brown, 12229 Izetta
School in the
Mayor Dunnum then called for rebuttals, first from the affirmative.
Mr. Gerald Altman, 9436 9toakes Avenue, stated that he feels the
oppositions` reasons are due to fear, the idea that it is something new,
and that they are going to object; secondly, they bought their homes in
the "good old days" and want them brought back. He stated that the noise
was not comparable with that of the jets, but that all were willing to
accept that. He feels that the heliport is in the good interest of all
concerned.
Mr. Fred Milam, 5901 W. Imperial Highway, representative of the
L. A. Airways, was called on for some clarifications.
He stated that there had been some forced landings during the year
of operation but no fatalities or accidents, and in case of a dire
emergency, could land on a spot about the size of the copter but need
never to crash.
The flight pattern the helicopters would follow would be determined
and approved by the Federal Aviation Administration and the entire
operation would be under their jurisdiction as a scheduled carrier.
He also refuted the statement that it was imperative for a copter
to land into the wind - -it simply is more desirable but would not neces-
sarily control the landing pattern.
He stated that the noise level of the new helicopter at 400 ft. is
approximately the same as an average truck on the highway.
Mr. Milam stated that there can be a clause in the contract that
they will not fly over the school, but the L. A. Airways must comply with
all F.A.A. regulations. When the Mayor asked if a cancellation clause
could be inserted if they did not comply with the outlined pattern, Mr. Milam
stated that that was a legal matter and he could not speak on that phase of
it.
Councilman Giddings remarked that he got the reaction that the people
feel the only reason for a heliport is to take people to the airport and
asked Mr. Milam to explain the services further. Mr. Milam again stated
that they would carry, not only passengers, but mail and cargo. It will
shorten the time of mail delivery and expedite the delivery of merchandise
to the business people, enabling them to render better service to the
citizens.
Mr. Dick Raabe, 8319 Sixth Street, stated that it would be of great
value as a businessman to get the parts ordered in a shorter time so that
the equipment he is servicing can be back in action much quicker.
Mayor Dunnum called on the opposition for their rebuttal.
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Mrs. Robert McNeill asked that the Council consider another site.
Mrs. Robert Kemp stated that she was not opposed to the heliport
but to the particular site.
Leonard Brown inquired into the number of flights a day contemplated,
if North American had anything to do with the location.
Mr. Milam answered that North American had no bearing on the problem.
The number of flights would be governed by the demand but initially there
would be four mail flights a day, governed by the Post Office authorities,
but would be approximately 8:00 A.M., 1:00 P M., sometime after 5:00 P.M.,
and one prior to 8:00 P.M.
Councilman Corbin inquired if there would be more than one helicopter
at a time on the field and if any repair work would be done there.
Mr. Milam replied that there would not be more than one copter at a time
and no repair work.
Councilman Temple inquired if at a later time the contract could be
renegotiated for a change in location. Mr. Milam replied in the affirma-
tive.
It was moved by Councilman Corbin, seconded by Councilman Dunnum and
so ordered that the hearing on the heliport matter be closed.
It was moved by Councilman Giddings, seconded by Councilman Corbin
that the site of the heliport be taken under submission, not to determine
if there shall be a helicopter service but rather to determine whether or
not there is a better location.
Mayor Dunnum stated that this is a difficult question - -it is a situa-
tion where progress is confronting the City. If there is a heliport, it is
going to cause some inconvenience, some noise, and some possible hazard to
some of the people - -that is the price of progress. The question is where
will these be minimized. He concurred with Councilman Giddings that
another search be completely and thoroughly made before a decision is made
and also pointed out that even a decision nead not be permanent as changes
could be made as it is contemplated that the facility for the City Hall
would provide for landing of copters, but this would be in the future.
Mayor Dunnum called for a vote on the motion as previously made to
take the matter of the site for the heliport under submission. Motion
passed by the following vote:
AYES: 4 Councilmen: Giddings, Temple, Corbin, Dunnum
NOES: 0 Councilmen: None
ABSENT: 1 Councilman: Peavey
Mayor Dunnum called for a recess of ten minutes at 9:50 P.M.
City Attorney Royal M. Sorensen arrived at the Council Meeting at
10:00 P.M.
The meeting reconvened at 10:00 P.M.
RESOLUTION NO. 807
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF DOWNEY
COMMEMORATING THE RESOLUTION OF THE CONTINENTAL CONGRESS,
JUNE 14, 1777, WHICH ADOPTED THE SYMBOL AND DESIGN WHICH
BECAME THE FIRST FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
NATIONAL FLAG WEEK- -JUNE 11 -17, 1961
The resolution was read by title only.
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Mrs. Robert McNeill asked that the Council consider another site.
Mrs. Robert Kemp stated that she was not opposed to the heliport
but to the particular site.
Leonard Brown inquired into the number of flights a day contemplated,
if North American had anything to do with the location.
Mr. Milam answered that North American had no bearing on the problem.
The number of flights would be governed by the demand but initially there
would be four mail flights a day, governed by the Post Office authorities,
but would be approximately 8:00 A.M., 1:00 P M., sometime after 5:00 P.M.,
and one prior to 8:00 P.M.
Councilman Corbin inquired if there would be more than one helicopter
at a time on the field and if any repair work would be done there.
Mr. Milam replied that there would not be more than one copter at a time
and no repair work.
Councilman Temple inquired if at a later time the contract could be
renegotiated for a change in location. Mr. Milam replied in the affirma-
tive.
It was moved by Councilman Corbin, seconded by Councilman Dunnum and
so ordered that the hearing on the heliport matter be closed.
It was moved by Councilman Giddings, seconded by Councilman Corbin
that the site of the heliport be taken under submission, not to determine
if there shall be a helicopter service but rather to determine whether or
not there is a better location.
Mayor Dunnum stated that this is a difficult question - -it is a situa-
tion where progress is confronting the City. If there is a heliport, it is
going to cause some inconvenience, some noise, and some possible hazard to
some of the people - -that is the price of progress. The question is where
will these be minimized. He concurred with Councilman Giddings that
another search be completely and thoroughly made before a decision is made
and also pointed out that even a decision need not be permanent as changes
could be made as it is contemplated that the facility for the City Hall
would provide for landing of copters, but this would be in the future.
Mayor Dunnum called for a vote on the motion as previously made to
take the matter of the site for the heliport under submission. Motion
passed by the following vote.
AYES: 4 Councilmen: Giddings, Temple, Corbin, Dunnum
NOES: 0 Councilmen: None
ABSENT: 1 Councilman: Peavey
Mayor Dunnum called for a recess of ten minutes at 9:50 P.M.
City Attorney Royal M. Sorensen arrived at the Council Meeting at
10:00 P.M.
The meeting reconvened at 10:00 P.M.
RESOLUTION NO. 807
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF DOWNEY
COMMEMORATING THE RESOLUTION OF THE CONTINENTAL CONGRESS,
JUNE 14, 1777, WHICH ADOPTED THE SYMBOL AND DESIGN WHICH
BECAME THE FIRST FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
NATIONAL FLAG WEEK- -JUNE 11 -17, 1961
The resolution was read by title only.
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It was moved by Councilman Temple, seconded by Councilman Giddings
and so ordered that further reading be waived.
It was moved by Councilman Temple, seconded by Councilman Giddings
and passed by the following vote that Resolution No. 807 be adopted.
^ AYES:
4
Councilmen:
Giddings, Temple, Corbin, Dunnum
NOES:
0
Councilmen:
None
ABSENT:
1
Councilman:
Peavey
The Mayor asked if there were any other matters to come before the
City Council.
The City Manager reported petitions have been filed with the City
Clerk requesting Council to rescind its decision of May 23, 1961,
instructing the City Planning Department to make a special study of land
use and zoning on Florence Avenue and Lakewood Boulevard.
Councilman Giddings stated he would like to have a clarification
of several items in connection with Council's action, upon recommendation
of'the City Planning Director and the City Manager, to institute this study.
He read copies of memoranda from Planning Director Sherman Griselle
informing Council such study would constitute poor planning and should not
be done; but also a recommendation from the City Manager in his report of
May 23, 1961 that such be done. He stated these recommendAtions were the
only basis for the approval of hiring Planning Consultant Gordon Whitnall.
Therefore, it was moved by Councilman Giddings, seconded by Councilman
Dunnum that the action be rescinded which was taken at the meeting of
May 23, 1961 relative to authorizing employing Mr. Gordon Whitnall and
directing the Planning Director forthwith to start a study of a master plan
for the City of Downey, and if necessary, to come before Council with the
understanding of hiring this man or type of personnel, to assist in the
master plan study.
Councilman Dunnum stated he feels the Planning Director needs this
planning consultant in the worse way and would leave the motion stand.
Councilman Temple remarked that it has been three years since the
Planning Commission had been requested to come up with an answer to this
problem and that he feels the request is proper; that the man he wishes to
hire is a good man. He read a resume of Mr. Whitnall's background,
qualifications and various positions held and awards received for his
service as a planning consultant and other related fields, as well as teach-
ing awards.
Councilman Dunnum remarked that the issue is, ig it good planning to
take one small segment of the City to study. It is his thinking that it
would be a real erroneous procedure to lift out one corner of the City
without studying the entire city at one time because of the obvious results,
and he feels that to hire this planning consultant for this study on
Florence and Lakewood would be throwing away $3,000.00.
Everyone is undoubtedly in favor of a master use plan. The Mayor
stated he was under the impression this would be forthcoming some time ago.
Mr. Griselle has finished the zoning ordinance and the reason for not
getting the land use plan has been because he has been tied up with
incidentals. He feels a study should be done for the entire city, hire a
clerk, and turn the Planning Director loose on this type study.
Councilman Giddings stated that he was for this former motion to begin
with as he had had calls from four property owners on Lakewood asking for
this study. Tonight it seems Council has decided they should forego some-
thing they had pretty much decided should be done because people came
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forward and gave rise for questions as to the proper approach. He
feels that first, the former action should be rescinded, secondly,
whatever action necessary should be taken to get the master plan
under way and get it completed. The great majority of the people in
the area want the study to be for the city as a whole.
Mr. Bob Brazleton, 10029 Birchdale, member of the Downey Home
Owners Association, stated petitions had been signed by over 300
persons residing in the Florence Avenue area opposing "piece meal"
type of study and requesting that the entire City be studied.
Mr. Henry Gotsenber, 10238 Clancey offered his services to help in
this matter.
Mr. Leonard Reseck, 10002 Downey Avenue, stated that he felt the
Planning Director 's time was being misused in daily routine tasks
and should be given outside consultant help.
Mr. Joe Street, 8336 E. Dinsdale, also voiced his opposition to
a partial study.
Mayor Dunnum reminded Council there was a motion before them to
rescind the former action of the Council meeting of May 23, 1961, and
called for the vote:
AYES:
2
Councilmen:
Giddings, Dunnum
NOES:
2
Councilmen:
Temple, Corbin
ABSENT:
1
Councilman:
Peavey
The Mayor announced that the motion failed and the previous action
of the Council remains in force and effect.
After some discussion, the Mayor called a five - minute recess at
10:35 P.M. in order to call Mr. Griselle from the Planning Commission
meeting to the Council meeting to clear up some points.
Council reconvened at 10:40 P.M. The Mayor asked Mr. King to read
a letter from the Downtown Business Association requesting that Downey
Avenue be closed for a special civic event on Saturday, June 24th, 1961,
from 12:00 noon to 2 :00 P.M.
It was moved by Councilman Corbin, seconded by Councilman Temple
and so ordered that Downey Avenue be closed for civic purposes on
Saturday, June 24, 1961, for the hours from 12 :00 P.M. to 2 :00 P.M
The Mayor asked Mr. Griselle to establish his position in the
master plan problem.
Mr. Griselle stated that the ideal situation is to complete the
Master Plan before the Zoning Ordinance but in the light of the problems
here it seemed advisable to adopt the ordinance first. He feels he
cannot solve the problems of zoning studies for Lakewood - Florence, or
other locations alone, but must have and needs professional help and
wishes the best help available. The urgency of spot study is for the
Council to decide. Thera is no question but that the ideal approach
would be for the entire study to be made at one ti e to avoid possible
errors by spot planning.
Councilman Giddings asked how best to proceed with the Master land
use program.
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After some discussion Mr. King recommended that the entire plan be
turned over to the Planning Director to bring to the Planning Commission
and the Council, a recommended soyution. He feels it is important to
bring Gordon Whitnall into the picture and feels that Mr. Griselle knows
pretty much what the City would like, but feels that anything that
Mr. Whitnall would do on Florence Avenue at this time would fit into the
master plan.
It was moved by Councilman Giddings, seconded by Councilman Dunnum
and passed by the following vote that further action with reference to
the employment of an expert be deferred until the Planning Director
presents to the City Council, at its July 10th meeting, a comprehensive
plan as to the overall Master Plan of the City including time, cost,
personnel, everything that, in his estimation, would expedite a master
plan for the entire city.
AYES:
4
Councilmen:
Temple, Giddings, Corbin, Dunnum
NOES:
0
Councilmen:
None
ABSENT:
1
Councilman:
Peavey
Mr. Griselle pointed out that the Planning Commission would check the
report he compiled, following the same procedure as was used for the
zoning ordinance.
There being no further business to come before the Council, the
meeting adjourned at 11:15 P.M.
City Clerk \ M1�yor