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CITY OF DOWNEY __________ _______________________
MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
DOWNEY CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
WEDNESDAY , OCTOBER 3 , 2012
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBER, 11111 BROOKSHIRE AVENUE
DOWNEY, CALIFORNIA
6 :30 P.M.
I. A Regula r meeting of the Planning Commission was held October 3, 2012. After the Pledge of
Allegiance to the Flag, Chairman Murray called roll at 6:30 p.m.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT :
II. Louis Morales, District 3 , Vice - Chairman
Robert Kiefer, District 2
M ichael Murray, District 1 , Chairman
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT :
Hector Lujan, District 5
Ernie Garcia, District 4
ALSO PRESENT:
Brian Saeki, Director of Community Development
Yvette Abich Garcia, City Attorney
William Davis, City Planner
David Blumenthal, Senior Planner
Kevin Nguyen, Assistant Planner
Theresa Donahue, Secretary
MINUTES:
I II. Motion by Commissioner Kiefer, second by Commissioner Morales and passed
by a vote of 3 - 0 - 2, with Commissioner Lujan and Garcia absent, to continue the Minutes of September
5 , 2012 , to the Commission’s next meeting, due to lack of a quorum of eligible voting members.
Motion by Commissioner Kiefer, second by Commissioner Morales and passed by a vote of 3 - 0 - 2, with
Commissio ners Morales, Kiefer and Murray voting “Aye” and Commissioners Lujan and Garcia absent ,
to ap prove the Minutes of September 1 9, 2012.
AGENDA CHANGES:
I V. Community Development Director Saeki noted there were n o changes to the
agenda .
REPORT ON CITY COUNCIL ACTION :
V. Community Development Director Saeki reported that the City
Council, at their regular meeting held September 25, 2012, adopted the Ordinance rezoning the property
located at 8605 Gallatin Road from C - 2 (General Commercial) to R - 3 (Multi - family Residential), and the
Land Use Designation (General Plan Amendment) from Commercial to Medium Density Residential, in
order to proceed with plans to build the 46 townhomes.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS:
VI. Chairman Murr ay noted that t here were n o Consent Calendar Items
on this evening’s agenda .
PUBLIC HEARING ITEM S :
VII.
PLN - 12 - 00101 (TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP) and PLN - 12 - 00196 (GENERAL PLAN
1 .
CONSISTENCY FINDING)
Location: 12 504 Smallwood Avenue
Owner: Margaret and Donald D. Jervis, Trustee
Applicant: Hank Jong, EGL, Associates Inc.
Staff: Kevin Nguyen
CEQA: As required by the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA), this request
has been found to be Categorically Exemp t from CEQA, p er CEQA Guidelines,
Section 15315 (Class 15, Minor Land Divisions).
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Request: Tentative Parcel Map and General Plan Consistency Finding: A request to
subdivide one residential lot into two parcels and find that the vacation of an
“easement for future road purposes” on the subject lot is consistent w ith the
City’s General Plan for p roperty zoned R1 - 5,000 (Single Family Residential).
Chairman Murray stated that the public hearing for PLN - 12 - 00101 and PLN - 12 - 00196 had remained open
from t he previous meeting held September 19, 2012, and invited staff to present their staff report.
Commissioner Morales affirmed to Chairman Murray , Commission er Kiefer, staff and those present in the
audience that he had reviewed the recorded meeting as well as the Minutes from the last meeting and was
able to participate in discussion on this matter.
Community Development Director Saeki reviewed the status of the matter, noting that at the last meeting
neighbors had expressed concerns with the proposed land vacation and land subdivision due to a perception
that a road might be continued through from the north side of the subject property into this neighborhood.
He stated that a new condition has been added to dispel those concerns, which he read into the re cord (and
reads): “There shall be no access pr ovided from the subject site to properties north of the site.”
Chairman Murray stated that he believed this condition should alleviate the neighbors’ concerns regarding
a through - street.
Greg Bae k, represent ative for EGL Associates, Inc, 11819 Goldring Road, Unit A, Arcadia, speaking on
behalf of Hank Jong addressed the Commission, noting that they accepte d the new condition’s language.
Chairman Murray asked staff for any additional correspondence.
Assistan t Planner, Kevin Nguyen, noted that no new correspondence had been received.
Chairman Murray invited members of the audience to address the Commission. No one came forward at
this time.
Chairman Murray noted that there were no further comments or conce rns being addressed by the neighbors
and asked staff for the recommendation.
Mr. Nguyen stated staff’s recommendation is for approval, and noted the associated Resolution numbers are
12 - 2789, approving PLN - 12 - 00101 (Tentative Parcel Map); and Resolution n umber 12 - 2790, recommending
City Council approve the General Plan Consistency Finding (PLN - 12 - 00196).
Chairman Murray asked if there were any questions regarding staff’s recommendation. No hands were
raised and no one came forward to address the Commissi on.
There being no questions regarding staff’s recommendation the public hearing was closed.
Commission discussion:
Commissioner Kiefer noted that the neighbors’ main concern was regarding additional traffic impacts, and
those concerns have been addresse d.
Commissioner Morales thanked staff for resolving the concern with the additional condition, but noted that
there never was a plan to bring the road through; the condition merely affirms what was never going to
happen. He noted that staff was being acc ommodating to the neighbors and thanked staff and the applicant
for allowing the additional language.
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Motion by Commissioner Kiefer, second by Commissioner Morales and passed by a 3 - 0 vote to adopt
Resolution No. 12 - 2789, approving PLN - 12 - 00101 ( Tentat ive Parcel Map ) to subdivide one r esidential lot into
two parcels on property located at 12504 Smallwood Avenue, zoned R1 - 5,000 (Single Family Residential).
Motion by Commissioner Morales, second by Commissioner Kiefer and passed by a 3 - 0 vote to adopt
Re solution No. 12 - 2790 , recommending approval of the General Plan Consistency Finding to the City Council
(PLN - 12 - 00196).
Chairman Murray stated the action of the Planning Commission will be final unless the matter is
appealed to the City Council, with the appropriate fee, within the specified time period as set forth in
the City’s Ordinance.
PLN - 12 - 00199 ( CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT )
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Location: 7931 Firestone Boulevard
Owner: Eduardo Chantre
Applicant: Jose V. Correa/Vasilio’s Restaurant & Bar
Staff: Kevin Nguyen
CEQA: As required by the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA), this request
has been found to be Categorically Exempt from CEQA, p er CEQA Guidelines,
Section 1530 1 (Class 1 , Existing Facilities ).
Request: A request to approve the expansio n of the live entertainment at an existing
restaurant that operates with an alcoholic beverage control Type 47 license,
on property zoned C - 2 (General Commercial).
Chairman Murray opened the public hearing for PLN - 12 - 00199 (Conditional Use Permit). Ms . Donahue
affirmed proof of publication.
Kevin Nguyen, Assistant Planner , presented staff’s report and accompanying Powe r Point, noting that
staff support s the applicant’s request to bring the existing restaurant/bar into code compliance by having
its c on ditional u se p ermit approved to allow the expa nsion of live entertainment for the restaurant to
include disc jockey, live band, karaoke and dancing, wh ich operates with a Type 47 Alcohol
Beverage Control license. Mr. Nguyen stated that staff wished to ad dress a concern regarding potential
noise impacts, by providing a condition that requires the applicant to keep the rear door closed during
business hours.
Responding to questions from the Commissioners, Mr. Nguyen added, 1) Vasilio’s has an existing Type
47 ABC license; 2) There have been some complaints received by the Police Department, but he was not
familiar with them.
Applicant Jose Correa, 7931 Firestone Boulevard addressed the Commission, testifying that he had not
experience d any major problems o r complaints from the neighbors; most of his patrons are mature, and
his club is more of a social club , which he has owned since 2005 . He noted that he has experienced car
alarms from vehicles parked at Norm’s, a 24 - hour business, going off and disturbing the peace of the
neighborhood.
Mr. Correa responded to questions from the Commissioners, noting that the restaurant is mostly open for
dinner (6 p.m.), other than a few times when they are open for special luncheons.
Commissioner Morales asked Mr. Cor rea about the complaints from the neighbors directly behind his
property (per four letters that were provided to the Commissioners in their staff reports).
Mr. Correa responded, noting that he had read the letters from the neighbors , and believed they mig ht be
thinking th e restaurant has changed owners. He is aware of one problem that had occurred in the lot.
Mr. Correa stated that they have only had live bands (mariachi) about three times per year, and did not
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want to increase that activity. No membe rship is required. The hours of operation are Mondays 6 pm to 1
am; Fridays and Saturdays to 2 am; however, they stop selling alcohol at 1:30 am. They currently have a
Type 47 ABC license. The dinner menu consists of Mediterranean , Continental, Caribbe an and Mexica n
cuisine. Mr. Correa stated that he’d never been cited for serving alcohol to a min or. In addition, they
collect a $5 cover charge wh en they have special band event and serve appetizers. Mr. Correa stated
that he had read and accepted the recommended additional condition of approval.
Mr. Saeki stated that staff was recommending approval, but noted that the restaurant had been cited by
Code Enforcement for allowing a live band to perform at the restaurant. He informed the Commission that
t his situation had been corrected.
Chairman Murray asked if there was any further correspondence.
Mr. Nguyen responded, there was no other correspondence than what had been distributed.
Chairman Murray invited members of the public to address the Commiss ion. No one came forward at this
time.
Chairman Murray asked for staff’s recommendation. Mr. Nguyen stated staff recommended the
Commission approve PLN - 12 - 00199 (Conditional Use Permit), modifying the conditions to require the
back door remain closed du ring business hours.
Chairman Murray inquired if there were any questions regarding staff’s recommendation. Commissioner
Kiefer asked the distance from the back of the restaurant wall to the single family property to the rear.
Mr. Nguyen stated there was a 100 - foot separation.
Commission discussion:
Commissioner Morales stated that Vasilios operates primarily as a nightclub, and secondarily as a
restaurant; that with the conditions in - place, the proper controls provide adequate protection to the
resid ential neighborhood. He stated that he would like to have heard from the neighbors this evening,
so they could explain the impacts. Commissioner Morales stated that it is his hope that the restaurant
continue to operate as a bonafide restaurant as the e conomy continues to improve.
Commission er Kiefer stated his agreement the restaurant appears to b e operating more as a nightclub.
H e noted his concern with the conditions as stated, that he is not in favor of allowing the facility to be open
until 3:00 a .m. He stated that he would prefer the “nightclub” activities and hours of operation be m ore in -
line with past approvals. Commissioner Kiefer also noted that he’d like to have more details about Police
Department calls to the business.
Chairman Murray s tated that he favors Condition #6 (“The gross sale of alcohol shall not exceed the gross
sales of food . .. .” ), and believed that keeping the sales of food primary controls the issue of nightclub vs.
restaurant. Some discussion followed regarding the pra cticality of obtaining such records.
Commissioner Kiefer said he would like to review the conditions more closely, so as to conform to the
Commission’s past conditions of approval.
Commissioner Morales pointed out that since the neighboring business, Nor ms, is open 2 4 hours, the
Commission could consider limiting the hours of entertainment and allowing the later hours for the
restaurant , if alcohol was no longer being served. He also suggested that the Police Department have
a representative at future m eetings.
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Mr. Saeki explained that representatives from each of the City Departments meet to address each case
prior to presenting before the Planning Commission in order to flush out their concerns and address
possible mitigation measures. He noted that Police Department has stated its concerns regarding this
business. He stated that t hose concerns have been addressed within the conditions of approval.
Commissioner Morales stated he wanted to see consistency with the City’s approvals . Commissioner
Ki efer agreed, noting he was not familiar with another nightclub approved until 3 a.m.
It was moved by Commissioner Kiefer, seconded by Commissioner Morales and passed by a 3 - 0 - 2 vote,
with Commissioners Morales, Kiefer and Murray voting “Aye” and Commissi oners Lujan and Garcia
absent, to continue this item to the next meeting, October 17 and direct staff to provide more information
regarding the neighbors’ issues and compare the hours of operation and conditions to other similar
approvals, and also to conf irm the nature of the type of activities requested.
PLN - 12 - 00205 (SITE PLAN REVIEW AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT)
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Location: 9250 Lakewood Boulevard
Owner: Matthew Rodman/Furst Enterprises
Applicant: Masood Elahi/Bickel Underwood Corp
Staff: David Blume nthal
CEQA: As required by the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA), this request
has been found to be Categorically Exempt from CEQA, p er CEQA Guidelines,
Section 15302 (Class 2, Replacement or Reconstruction).
Request: A request to demolish and reconstruct a McDonald’s Restaurant with drive -
thru lanes, on property zoned C - 2 (General Commercial) and PB (Parking
Buffer) .
Chairman Murray opened the public hearing for PLN - 12 - 00205 (Site Plan Review and Conditional Use
Permit). Ms. Donahue affi rmed proof of publication.
David Blumenthal, Senior Planner, presented staff’s report and accompanying PowerPoint. He stated
that staff was able to make the findings in a positive manner to support the applicant’s requested project.
He noted that a lot line a djustment is being processed concurrently with this project. Mr. Blumenthal
also noted that although the re design will create a loss of eight (8) parking spaces, the center has
sufficient parking spaces to absorb the loss. He also noted that the ne w drive - through will allow for nine
additional vehicle s in the queue, thereby doubling the code requirement. Mr. Blumenthal provided a
material board to the Commission as he described the proposed new McDonald’s restaurant. He also
reviewed the proposed landscaping the applicant would provide.
James Bickel , Architect with Bickel Underwood Corporation, 3600 Birch Street, Ste 120, Newport Beach,
Ca., addressed the Commission, thanking them for their consideration of the proposal and explained
that McDona ld’s wished to improve the on - site circulation as well as provide an updated , more functional
restaurant with a classic design. He noted that they are losing some parking spaces due to the redesign
but also because of the dedication of land to the City. A ddressing the double drive aisles, he stated that
they have provided extensive research and found that the side by side aisles function more efficiently.
Commissioner Kiefer inquired what other locations are utilizing the double - aisles.
Mr. Bickel respon ded that there are about 50 in the southern California area.
Carlos Madrigal, with McDonald’s Corporati o n , 3800 Kilroy, Airpor t Way, Long Beach, recalled locations
in La Habra and Los Alamitos, noting that the double drive - aisle design has been in effect for about two
years and will affect about 60% of the drive - thrus. He stated that the new restaurant will be more family -
oriented. Mr. Madrigal had one question regarding staff’s recommended conditions of a pproval, and
asked for clarification of Conditio n number 14 .
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Senior Planner Blumenthal explained that this condition would limit the number of menu boards to two
(32 square feet each at five foot in height) .
Matthew Rodman, representing the property owners, Furst Enterprises, 89 55 National Blvd., #1 00, Los
Angeles, Ca. addressed the Commission, noting that he has been working with McDonald’s and the City
since they acquired the property two years ago to improve the on - site circulation . He stated that they
are pleased to support this application for redesign of the restaurant.
Chairman Murray asked staff for any correspondence. Mr. Blumenthal stated that no correspondence
had been received.
Chairman Murray invited members of the audience to address the Commission on this matter. No one
came forwar d at this time.
Chairman Murray asked staff for their recommendation.
Senior Planner Blumenthal stated that staff’s r ecommendation was for approval of PLN - 12 - 00205 ( Site
Plan Review and Conditional Use Permit ).
Chairman Murray asked if there were any questions regarding staff’s recommendation. No one raised a
concern.
There being no questions regarding staff’s recommendation, the public hearing was closed.
Commission discussion:
The Commissioners addressed the planned improvements on the site, statin g that the findings have
been met and concerns had been satisfied. They noted that the dual drive - thru is a newer design and
hoped that it proved to be more efficient. They agreed that the current circulation was problematic,
impacting the rest of the ce nter’s flow.
Commissioner Morales said that he thought a better layout would be to flip the building the other way,
with a 33 - foot driveway approach further away from Lakewood; however, he can support the proposal
and thought the dual drive - thru lanes wou ld improve the queuing and therefore improve circulation on -
site.
Chairman Murray said he was pleased to see McDonald’s had the confidence to invest their money into
a new building at this location, which will help the center’s overall success.
It was mo ved by Commissioner Kiefer, seconded by Commissioner Morales and passed by a 3 - 0 - 2 vote
with Commissioners Morales, Kiefer and Murray voting “Aye”, to adopt Resolution No. 12 - 2791,
approving PLN - 12 - 00205 (Site Plan Review and Conditional Use Permit).
Chai rman Murray stated the action of the Planning Commission will be final unless the matter is
appealed to the City Council, with the appropriate fee, within the specified time period as set forth in
the City’s Ordinance.
PLN - 12 - 00215 (CONDITIONAL USE PE RMIT)
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Location: 8832 Imperial Highway
Owner: David Gonsalves
Applicant: Luis Gomez
Staff: Kevin Nguyen
CEQA: As required by the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA), t his request
has been found to be Categorically Exempt from CEQA, p er CEQA Gui delines,
Section 15301 (Class 1, Existing Facilities).
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Request: A request to allow a new bar to operate with an alcoholic beverage control
Type 48 license, on property zoned C - 2 (General Commercial).
Chairman Murray opened the public hearing f or PLN - 12 - 00215 (Conditional Use Permit). Ms. Donahue
affirmed proof of publication.
Kevin Nguyen, Assistant Planner, presented staff’s report and accompanying PowerPoint, noting that
staff has addressed concerns regarding potential noise impact s to the residential neighborhoo d south of
the subject site, and with the conditions that have been recommended believe all the findings can be met.
Mr. Nguyen noted that staff had received no correspondence from adjacent property owners.
Commissioner Morales ask ed what other uses are operating within the building and Commissioner Kiefer
inquired as to the proximity of the residential pro perties to the south, and if the applicants have ever
operated this type of business.
Mr. Nguyen responded, there are two schoo ls operating within this building: a karate school and a
b arbering school. The residential properties are fifty feet south of the rear property line. Mr. Nguyen
stated that according to the applicant, this is the first bar they hope to open.
Applicants Luis Gomez, 9516 Lubec, Downey and Armando Rivera, 10834 Hasty Avenue, Downey
addressed the Commissioners. They affirmed that they had read and agreed to the conditions of
approval. Mr. Gomez stated that his current business is for a chemical company.
T he Commissioners asked questions regarding the site plan and found that the applicants intend to
create a “casual bar” atmosphere by utilizing an existing fountain at their entrance area and providing
cocktail tables . T he restaurant will include two ADA - a pproved restrooms, an existing office/inventory
room, and mop room.
Mr. Gomez and Mr. Rivera stated that the facility, with the existing restrooms, has existed for seventeen
years. They explained their desire to create an atmosphere that is not commonl y found in Downey . T heir
goal is to raise the standard of this “casual bar” above the normal sports bar atmosphere, by providing
areas that patrons can relax and talk and by raising the standard attire that is encouraged ( no sports
clothing ) .
David Gonsla ves, 8818 Imperial Highway, owner, addressed the Commission and clarified that he
installed the fountain about 18 years ago when he was remodeling this portion of the building to be his
personal office, but admitted that he had never finished the project.
Commissioner Kiefer asked Mr. Gonsalves when he planned on improving the parking lot, noting that the
condition is poor and the Commission had addressed the needed improvements during their last
Conditional Use Permit review (Barbering School).
Mr. Gon salves stated that he has estimates of $150,000 to complete the required improvement, and he
hoped to have the work done once all the tenant spaces are leased.
Commissioner Kiefer pointed out that the condition of the lot could be preventing the leasing o f the
building to quality tenants. Other comments included whether the owner could proceed with repaving a
portion of the lot?
Mr. Gonsalves provided details about his attempt to improve the lot, damage that was done to his lot by
contractors hired by the City to improve Impe rial Highway.
Commissioner Morales stated that to keep the focus on maintaining a higher quality establishment, he
wanted to ask the applicant not to post the usual beer signs commonly seen on bars .
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Mr. Gonsalves stated the vendo rs do usually provide special consideration for putting up their
advertisements, so there may be some. He also stated that there would be a few tables in the front area
and some permanent benches to be installed in the rear , with televisions installed abo ve, but volume will
be low enough to allow conversation. He stated that the rear door will remain closed, recognizing that
complaints from the residents could cause the operators to lose their lease.
Chairman Murray asked when the b arbering school closed and what was the school’s reaction to having
a bar open right next door?
Mr. Gonsalves noted that he believed they closed at 6 p.m. and they actually are happy to have the
business in hopes that it might help increase their own activities.
Commissione r Morales asked if the applicants planned to provide music.
Mr. Gomez said there would be some music probably a mixture of IPOD and jukebox music. And they
have begun some improvements, beginning with imported wallpaper from Germany.
Commissioner Morale s asked if approved, how close the property would be to 100% leased, and asked
at what point the applicant intended to improve the condition of his parking lot.
Mr. Gonsalves said, it would be at about 15 - 20% vacant . Another factor for him completing tho se
improvements is whether or not his tenants pay their rent, which currently is a problem.
The Commissioners emphasized to Mr. Gonsalves the importance of improving his parking lot.
Chairman Murray asked staff for any correspondence received.
Assistant P lanner, Kevin Nguyen, stated there was no correspondence received.
Chairman Murray invited members of the public to address the Commission on this matter.
1. Martin Felix, 8706 Meadow Rd., addressed concerns regarding the number of bars in the area. He
p ointed out that there a re bars on every corner: Casa Blanca, El Mague y (sp?), and another one near
the corner, and did not believe another bar was warranted, nor desirable. H e stated that the La Perla
del Mar, across the street, operates as a bar and he l ives behind those facilities and its very noisy.
He said that someone was injured at the La Perla del Mar, possibly killed, on August 25. He agreed
that the parking lot of the subject site is in terrible condition.
Chairman Murray said that staff coul d review the activities at La Perla del Mar, to see if they are
operating within their approval.
Chairman Murray offered the applicant rebuttal time.
Mr. Gonsalves stated that the El Maguey had closed and would not be coming back. He also stated that
th eir business should not be denied because another is run poorly. He explained that his leasees will be
running a very different type of bar.
Mr. Gomez stated that they did their due diligence prior to investing in their business and they intend to
keep t he environment safe and believe it will have a positive affect on the neighborhood.
Chairman Murray called for staff’s recommendation.
Kevin Nguyen stated staff was recommending approval. If the Commission agrees, the Resolution
number is 12 - 2792 .
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Comm issioner Kiefer asked if the bar across the street that had been closed (El Maguey) would require
a new conditional use permit in order to reopen.
Senior Planner David Blumenthal noted that the bar could basically re - open with one year, without
requiring a conditional use permit.
There being no further questions regarding staff’s recommendation, Chairman Murray closed the public
hearing.
Commission discussion:
Commissioner Morales stated that he was comfortable with the conditions that have been addresse d; he
believed an upscale casual bar could be successful and a welcome change. He noted that the
applicants were meeting the requirements of the City’s code. Commissioner Morales also noted that a
bar of this type could do well in the City’s downtown, an d hoped to see other bars be inspired to improve
their facilities in a similar fashion. He also noted that he does not have a concern with the proposed
music since it does not appear to be the main focus of the bar.
Commissioner Kiefer said that this was a tough decision for him because one on hand he likes the bar
that is being proposed, and he realize s there are several other drinking establishments in the area. He
noted that this is the third conditional use permit for this location to come before the Planning
Commission, and each time they address the parking lot , and now the lot is dilapidated. He stated that
he has a problem approving until the lot is approved.
Discussion followed during which City Attorney Yvette Abich Garcia reminded the Commiss ioners of a
past approval whereby they had conditioned a conditional use permit with the needed resurfacing of the
parking lot. At that time , The Planning Commission placed the burden on both the applicant and the
property owner. She stated that the prob lem comes when the request before them is from a leasee of
the property and not the property owner, and by tying in a requiremen t to improve the parking lot , the
condition is difficult to enforce and it puts the applicant’ s business at a disadvantage, sinc e it is the
responsibility of the owner to improve the lot (unless it is in the applicants’ lease to take care of the lot.)
She suggested keeping the review for the conditional use permit separate from the discussions
regard ing the parking lot improvement s. Ms. Garcia noted that the City could address the condition of
the parking lot through Code Enforcement.
Commissioner Kiefer stated that he is a small business owner and also understands the investment that
the applicants will be putting into their fac ility. He said that he cannot in good conscience support
allowing another business to go forward at this location without the necessary improvements to the lot.
He stated that he believed the property owner needs to start making some repairs to the prope rty in
order to help the applicants’ business be successful. He noted that a rundown property does not invite
good, upscale patrons.
Commissioner Morales asked how the Commission would be able to condition the bar to maintain its
goal of being different and “upscale”, and what will prevent it from beco ming a typical neighborhood bar?
Community Development Director Saeki stated that the City would have the tools to address any
problems should they develop, with the ability to address conditions, and ultim ately the power to revoke
the use.
Commissioner Morales stated that normally an upscale business opportunity looks for facilities that are
improved. He noted that this should be a priority for the applicants and the owner to complete. He
stated that thi s matter could be handled separately, but he cautioned the owner that the Commission is
concerned about this matter. He also suggested the owner apply for a Planned Sign Program for the
property. More discussion followed regarding planned improvements fo r the property:
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It was moved by Commissioner Morales, seconded by Commissioner Murray and passed by a 2 - 1 vote
with Commissioners Morales and Chairman Murray voting “Aye” and Commissioner Morales voting “No”,
to approve PLN - 12 - 00215, appro ving the Condi tional Use Permit, and adding a condition that the rear
door remain closed.
Chairman Murray stated the action of the Planning Commission will be final unless the matter is
appealed to the City Council, with the appropriate fee, within the specified time p eriod as set forth in
the City’s Ordinance.
PLN - 12 - 00 235 (SPECIAL EVENT)
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Location: 8141 De Palma Street
Owner: Downey Unified School District
Applicant: Heidi Llanes (on behalf of Warren High School
Staff: William E. Davis
CEQA: As required by the C alifornia Environmental Quality Act (CEQA), t his request
has been found to be Categorically Exempt from CEQA, p er CEQA Guidelines,
Section 15304 (Class 4 , Minor Alterations to Land ).
Request: A request by Warren High School to conduct a three - day carniv al on October
19, 20 and 21, 2012, which includes rides, game booths, and food sales, on
the parking lot of Warren High S chool, on property zoned R1 - 5,000 ( Single
.
Family Residential)
Chairman Murray opened the public hearing for PLN - 12 - 002 35 (Special Event).
City Planner, William Davis, presented staff’s report and accompanying PowerPoint and stated staff was
able to support the applicant’ s request to permit a carnival at the Warren High School campus, with the
recommended conditions as per the attached resolution. Mr. Davis stated that he had received one phone
call from a neighboring property owner who had concern regarding the noise and traffic impacts. T he
applicant has addressed all potential concerns that staff had addressed with her. He also noted that the
applicant is the same lady that processed the Downey High School carnival application, Ms. Heidi Llanes,
and that Ms. Llanes has proven herself to be thorough and to have followed through with her stated
commitments.
Commissio ner Kiefer asked if Warren High School had secured permission from the School District?
Mr. Davis stated that staff’s report includes a copy of signed authorization from Ms. Wendy L. Doty, and
with John M. Morris, dated August 8, 2012.
Chairman Murray i nvited the applicant to address the Commission.
Heidi Llanes, 7635 Coolgrove, Downey addressed the Commission. Ms. Llanes stated that they had read
and agreed to the recommended conditions of approval. She also shared that the Downey High School
carniva l proved to be very successful, noting that they had earned the $20,000 that they needed to obtain
the grant from the Major League Baseball and they were awarded $65,000 worth of field improvements at
Downey High School. Ms. Llanes noted that the improvem ents were currently underway and would be
complete prior to this year’s baseball season.
Ms. Llanes explained that she had promised the Downey principal to offer to help Warren should they
cho o se to have a carnival to benefit their programs. She explain ed that the various programs can
participate in fundraising by selling pre - sale tickets, while the earnings from the carnival will benefit the
athletic programs .
Chairman Murray asked staff for any correspondence.
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Mr. Davis responded, no correspondence was received, only the one phone call.
Chairman Murray invited members of the audience to address the Commission. No one came forward to
speak.
Chairman Murray asked for staff’s recommendation.
Mr. Davis stated staff support s the applicant’s request, and recommends the Planning
Commission approve the Special Event permit. If the Commission agrees, the R esolution number is 12 -
2793.
There being no questions regarding staff’s recommendation, Chairman Murray closed the public hearing.
Commission discu ssion:
The Planning Commissioners expressed their support for the carnival, noting that it would benefit the
community. Commissioner Morales stated that he was impressed with Ms. Llanes contribution to Warren
High School, helping them get this applicati on processed. Each of the Commissioners noted that they
hoped all the conditions stated in the resolution were expressly followed, cautioning that the neighborhood
should not be negatively impacted.
It was moved by Commissioner Morales, seconded by Com missioner Kiefer and passed by a 3 - 0 vote, to
adopt Resolution number 12 - 2793, approving PLN - 12 - 00235 (Special Event).
Chairman Murray stated the action of the Planning Commission will be final unless the matter is
appealed to the City Council, with the appropriate fee, within the specified time period as set forth in
the City’s Ordinance.
PLN - 12 - 00236 (SPECIAL EVENT)
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Location: 12145 Woodruff Avenue
Owner: Iglesia de Cristo Ministerios Llamada Final
Applicant: Edwin Lopez
Staff: William E. Davis
CE QA: As required by the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA), t his request
has been found to be Categorically Exempt from CEQA, p er CEQA Guidelines,
Section 15304 (Class 4, Minor Alterations to Land).
Request: A request to allow Iglesia de Cristo to conduct a one - day o utdoor harvest
festival on Saturday, October 13, 2012, from 9:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m., on
property zoned C - 1 ( Neighborhood Commercial) .
Chairman Murray opened the public hearing for PLN - 12 - 00236. Ms. Donahue affirmed proof of
publica tion.
William Davis, City Planner, presented staff’s report and accompanying PowerPoint, noting that
staff was recommending approval, with the conditions as stated. Mr. Davis stated that the church
staff has indicated they expect less than 500 people t o attend. He also stated that in the past there
have been concerns expressed by neighbors regarding the impact to the neighborhood due to
event attendees ’ vehicles parking on the public streets of their neighborhoods. Mr. Davis also noted
that a City e mployee, Kevin Nguyen, had attended the church’s last event from April this year and was
present. Mr. Davis stated that the church representatives’ goal last year was to keep the traffic from the
residential neighborhood, and stay on top of the trash and noise impacts. He stated that he believed
they were successful in meeting this goal since he hadn’t heard otherwise; that he hadn’t received any
calls from the neighbors.
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Commissioner Kiefer inquired how many such events the church was permitted.
Mr. D avis responded, they are permitted four special events each year.
Chairman Murray mentioned that there had been one special event where the church did not file an
application. Community Development Director Saeki responded, they had a Grand Opening in
Fe bruary, 2011 without the benefit of filing an application.
Mr. Davis added that the Grand Opening had caused many phone call complaints to be registered with
the City .
Kevin Nguyen, Assistant Planner with the City informed the Commissioners that he had a ttended the
last Harvest Festival, in April 2012, and had not seen any negative issues arise. He said the event was
well - staffed and was under control.
Mr. Davis informed the Commission that the neighbor who had attended last year’s Commission
meeting wa s in the audience this evening.
David Martinez, 5301 Palm Avenue, Whittier, Ca. , representative for the applicant , stated that he
accepted the conditions of approval, including Condition N umber 13 which requires that the church
provide letters from neighb oring businesses allowing the church to use their lots for event attendees
parking.
Chairman Murray asked staff for any correspondence received.
Mr. Davis responded, no correspondence had been received.
Chairman Murray invited members of the audience to address the Commission.
The following persons wished to speak in opposition:
1) Sabina Arencibia, 12102 Cornuta (corner of Cornuta/Washburn). Ms. Arencibia described the
impact of the church activities to her as “a nightmare”, with large trucks parking on the street and
activities beginning as early as 7 a.m., disturbing her peace from Friday through Sunday. She also
described other impacts to include debris left behind and vehicles parking and blocking access from
her own driveway.
2) Thomas Lopez, 12115 Co rnuta greeted the Commissioners. He stated that these church activities
do nothing to benefit the neighborhood. He said the event attendees are inconsiderate, leaving
trash behind . He stated that Mr. Nguyen must not have been present at the event earlie r this year
or he would be aware of the problems that they had. Mr. Lopez described the church as a “mega -
church” with members coming from distant cities. In addition he claimed that their lives are being
negatively impacted, and it is every Sunday, not just the special events. Mr. Lopez also pointed out
that the representatives for the church are not even present this evening to respond to their
complaints. He stated that the church needs a parking structure for their 2,000 members.
Commissioner Kiefe r inquired about the traffic impacts on Sundays.
Mr. Lopez said the traffic begins at 8 a.m. and runs until 1 and 2 p.m.
City Attorney Garcia reminded the Commission and those in the audience that this hearing was in
regards to the Harvest Festival, no t the weekly services.
Mr. Lopez also stated that he’d like to see the copies of the authorizations of use of off - site lots.
Chairman Murray noted that those letters would be available prior to the event being approved .
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3) Theresa Avera, ____ Cornuta state d her concern regarding parking impacts to their street, leaving
no place for her family to park; noting every Sunday is the same.
Speaking in rebuttal, Mr. Martinez said he was not aware of any 18 - wheelers parking on the street. At
their l ast event they had one 18 - wheeler that parked in the lot, but this year they would not have any
18 - wheelers. Mr. Martinez stated that they follow all requirements. He stated that his role with the
church is video director . In addition, he noted that they had staff di recting attendees away from the
residential neighborhoods. He stated that he was not aware of any spill - over into the residential
neighborhood.
Ms. Abich Garcia, City Attorney, pointed at that the hours stated in conditions of approval, noting set up
and take down are permitted as early as 7 a.m.; and perhaps that should be addressed.
Community Development Director Saeki stated that church staff could certainly control where the event
contractors park their trucks, directing them to their ancillary sites . He stated that the mechanism is in
pla ce for staff to require all trucks be kept of f the residential streets. He also encouraged the neighbors
to call the Police (Watch Commander) if the trucks are parking on their street or people are blocking
drivewa ys.
Chairman Murray suggested
Mr. Martinez stated that they are willing to compromise these conditions and work with staff to alleviate
the concerns of the neighbors.
Chairman Murray noted that although it is not possible to stop vehicles from parking on the public
street, he asked that the event planners do all they can to keep attendees from parking on the street.
He also stated that he is disturbed hearing the trash is being left behind. Also , he asked if the church is
utilizing parking spaces for their tent set - ups.
Commissioner Morales pointed out that the church has provided a site plan of the proposed set up ,
designating location of tents and available parking .
Chairman Murray asked for staff’s recommendation, and also when the letters are r equired.
Mr. Davis stated staff was recommending approval, and the Resolution number will be 12 - 2794. He
stated that the letter are required from the applicant no later than October 10, 2012, and before permits
will be signed off.
Commission discussion:
Commissioner Kiefer stated that the problem may be the number of events being permitted, and
suggested limited organizations to two events per year, unless the parking is available for all
anticipated attendees. He encouraged Mr. Lopez to report back the position of the neighbors.
Commissioner Morales stated that he was satisfied with the conditions that are in - place, but his
concern is if the church has become a “mega - church” with insufficient parking, noting that th e church
appears to draw large number s of members. He stated that he would like the head pastor to attend
future hearings to address the concerns of the neighbors , if the church believed this event was
important for them. He agreed that limiting the number of events on site is one way to r educe the
impacts. Another means to control them is to limit the size of the event.
Chairman Murray indicated that he was apprehensive to approve this permit due to the issues raised by
the neighbors, noting that the church needs to be more sensitive to the neighbors’ complaints and
noted the Commission would be particularly watchful of this year’s event.
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The Commissioners addressed the issue of set up and take down hours, agreeing that 7 a.m. was too
early and asked the applicant to consider 9 a.m. as an alternative.
Mr. Martinez said that they could accept 9 a.m. set up/take down, with the event beginning at 10 a.m.;
and agreed to the change.
It was moved by Commissioner Morales, seconded by Commissioner Kiefer and approved by a 3 - 0
vote, to adopt Re solution No. 12 - 2794, modifying Conditions number 1, 10, 11 and 13, to change the
start time of the event to 10 a.m. (Condition 1), set - up to begin after 9:00 a.m., October 12 (Condition
10), clean up to begin after 9:00 a.m., October 14 (Condition 11), an d off - street parking agreement
letters to be received by October 10, 2012 (Condition 13), and approving PLN - 12 - 00236.
Chairman Murray stated the action of the Planning Commission will be final unless the matter is
appealed to the City Council, with the ap propriate fee, within the specified time period as set forth in
the City’s Ordinance.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
VIII. :
Chairman Murray acknowledged Dan Fox , current GOOD President and Jerry Andrews in the audience.
OTHER BUSINES S :
IX.
Commissioner Moral es thanked Mr. Saeki for his assistance in having the curb along Tecum Road,
across from Gloria’s Restaurant successfully red painted. He stated that the traffic flow has been
improved substantially .
ITEMS FOR FUTURE AGENDA:
X.
Cha irman Murray asked the Commission secretary to provide a record of Commissioners’ attendance
at Planning Commission meetings for the last 24 months, and provide that record to City Council, noting
that the Commissioners hold an important position and emph asized the importance of be ing present.
Mr. Saeki affirmed that the information w ould be provided.
ADJOURNMENT:
X I . T here being no further business to come before the Planning Commission, the
Commission adjourned at 9:50 p.m., to Wednesday, October 17 , 2012, 6:30 p.m. at Downey City Hall,
11111 Brookshire Avenue, Downey, Ca. 90241
APPROVED AND ADOPTED this 17th day of October , 2012.
Michael Murray
Michael Murray, Chairman
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
I HEREBY CERTIFY that the foregoing Minutes were duly approved at a Regular meeting of the
Planning Commission held on the 17th day of October , 2012, by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Morales, Kiefer, Murray
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: Lujan, Ga rcia
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None
Theresa Donahue
Theresa Donahue, Secretary
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
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