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REGULAR MEETING
DOWNEY CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 7, 2012
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBER, 11111 BROOKSHIRE AVENUE
DOWNEY, CALIFORNIA
6:30 P.M.
I. A Regular meeting of the Planning Commission was held March 7, 2012. After the Pledge of Allegiance to
the Flag, roll was called at 6:32 p.m.
II. COMMISSIONERS PRESENT:
Ernie Garcia, District 4
Louis Morales, District 3, Vice-Chairman
Robert Kiefer, District 2
Hector Lujan, District 5
Michael Murray, District 1, Chairman
ALSO PRESENT: Brian Saeki, Director of Community Development
Yvette M. Abich, City Attorney
William Davis, City Planner
David Blumenthal, Senior Planner
Theresa Donahue, Secretary
III. MINUTES: It was moved by Commissioner Kiefer, seconded by Commissioner Morales and passed
by a unanimous vote, to approve the Minutes of February 15, 2012.
IV. AGENDA CHANGES:
Community Development Director Saeki stated there were no changes to the
agenda.
V. REPORT ON CITY COUNCIL ACTION: Mr. Saeki stated there was no report on City Council actions.
VI. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS: Chairman Murray noted there were no Consent Calendar items on this
evening’s agenda.
VII. PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
Chairman Murray stated that due to a potential conflict of interest, he would be abstaining from this item.
He gave the gavel to Vice Chairman Morales, ste pped down from the dais, and left the Council Chambers.
City Attorney, Yvette Abich Garcia, informed the public and the Commission, as a matter of house
cleaning, she needed to check that Commissioners Garcia and Lujan had reviewed the recorded meetings
of those meetings, related to the used car dealership (PLN-11-00284) that they had missed.
Commissioner Lujan affirmed that he had viewed the meeting for February 1, 2012; while Commissioner
Garcia affirmed that he had reviewed the meeting for February 15, 2012. Therefore, Ms. Garcia stated
that the Commissioners are therefore eligible to participate in this hearing.
1. PLN-11-00284 (CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT)
Location: 7345 Firestone Boulevard
Owner: Andrews Rancho Del Norte
Applicant: Roy Abboud
Staff: David Blumenthal
CEQA: As required by the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA), this request
has been found to be Categorically Exempt from CEQA, per CEQA Guidelines,
Section 15301 (Class 1, Existing Facilities).
Request: A request to establish a used car dealership (My Choice Auto) and conduct
public automotive auctions on property zoned C-M (Commercial-Manufacturing).
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Vice Chairman Morales opened the continued public hearing for PLN-11-00284 (Conditional Use Permit).
Ms. Donahue affirmed proof of publication.
Senior Planner, David Blumenthal, presented staff’s report and accompanying PowerPoint, noting that
staff had researched the issues identified at the previous hearing: 1) Confirmation of business
description; 2) Dealers’ license requirements; 3) Sales Tax questions; 4) Concerns regarding amplified
noise. Mr. Blumenthal reviewed the information regarding these matters, and simply stated:
1) Business has been determined to be a used car dealership, and used car dealerships are
permitted in this C-M zone.
2) The applicant has stated that his business qualifies for exclusion under Section 286 of the
California Vehicle Code. Mr. Blumenthal also stated that he is investigating this matter with the
Department of Motor Vehicles, and a condition of approval stated that staff will continue to work with
DMV to obtain determination of the applicant’s business.
3) Mr. Blumenthal reviewed those facts stated in the report which support the means the applicant
is using to pay their taxes. More specifically he noted that if the applicant sells three (3) or more cars in
a twelve (12) month period to the public, they are considered a retailer. At this time the applicant is
required to obtain a Seller’s Permit from the St ate Board of Equalization and pay all applicable sales
taxes. He noted a condition of approval addresses this requirement to comply with all Board of
Equalization requirements.
4) Stated the Code requires the applicant maintain all amplified sound within an enclosed building.
He pointed out that the front or south wall of the “auction house” has a roll up door that will suffice for
that wall; while the north side of the building is completely open. Therefore, because the Code
excludes the use of amplified sound outside, the north wall would need to be closed off in order to permit
the address system to be utilized. This condition has been added to the Resolution.
Mr. Blumenthal stated that based on the conditions of approval that are included in the attached
Resolution, staff believes all four findings can be made in a positive manner. He recommended
approval of the Conditional Use Permit.
Chris Carnelli, legal counsel for My Choice and speaking for the applicant, addressed the Commission.
He began by thanking staff for their presentation and research into this business. He stated that while
the applicant accepts the conditions of approval, he requests the Commission give further consideration
to four of them: #12, #16 b, #17 and 26. His concerns were stated as follows:
Condition number 12 : After reading into the record the wording of Section 4604 of the Downey
Municipal Code, which allows for exceptions for amplified sound , Mr. Carnelli explained that the sound
system is little more than a glorified karaoke machine, and gives out less sound that the power tools
being used next door. He further noted that the business has been operating for two months, and they
have not received any complaints from the neighbors to t he north. In addition, trains run this track four
to five times per day, and they are much louder than his client’s small address system. Mr. Carnelli
appealed to the Commissioners, that they permit the system be used for a period of six (6) months in
order to find out if those neighbors to the north are negatively impacted.
Condition number 16b: (The requirement to extend the landscaping the length of the frontage, an
additional 40 feet). Mr. Carnelli asked that the Commission reconsider this requirement since the cost
will be an additional $3,000. He noted that the neighboring property had not been required to do the
same.
Condition number 17: (30 days to remove the banner). Mr. Carnelli explained that the sign will take
longer than 30 days to have ready, and asked that the Commission grant another 30 days, extending to
60 days.
Conditional number 26: (Security guards required on-site.) Mr. Carnelli explained that the applicant
had installed a $20,000 security system. Stated that they do not anticipate any security issues beyond
what their personnel can handle, noting they increase personnel on the week-end.
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Following these concern/questions raised by the Commission, the applicant, Mr. Roy Abboud provided
additional information: 1) They do not keep cash on hand and only accept cashier’s checks or postal
money orders; other than a $300 check from the buyer to hold a vehicle while he/she obtained the
funds; 2) Explained how donated vehicles lose 5% of the price each month. Mr. Carnelli noted that the
applicant had applied for the Seller’s Permit, so that will not be a problem.
Vice-Chairman Morales asked if there was any correspondence on this matter. Senior Planner
Blumenthal responded. There was no new correspondence.
Vice-Chairman Morales invited members of the audience to address the Commission. No one came
forward to a address the Commission further on this matter.
There being no further comments, Vice-Chairman Morales closed the public hearing.
Commission comments:
The Commissioners addressed each of the items as identified by the applicant and following discussion,
determined the following:
Condition 12: The applicant has the ability to close the building if he wants to utilize the address system,
even though there have not been complaints per se about the sounds emitted. Auctioneer sounds can be
more disturbing than normal business-related sounds. The Commission decided to leave Condition
number 12 as written and insert a new condition, requiring a review in 6 months to determine if any
negative impacts to neighbors occur as a result of t he amplified sound. Condition number 16b: The site’s
aesthetics are minimal, prefer keeping the landscapi ng requirement. Condition number 17: Agreed that an
additional 30 days to remove the banner, is acceptable. Condition number 26: Since the applicant has
addressed security as part of his business plan, the Commission stated they are comfortable adding
language that allows the applicant to work with the Police Chief to determine whether additional security
shall be necessary. The added language should read, “as determined by the Police Chief”.
Commissioner Kiefer asked which procedure would be followed if all the conditions of approval are not
met within the time period allotted.
Senior Planner Blumenthal responded, stating that staff will follow up with any items that are not
completed and provide a letter to the applicant stating such. If the condition continues to be incomplete,
there are steps to be taken to encourage compliance. Ultimately, the City will revoke the Conditional Use
Permit. He stated that revocation is a last step means to enforce the conditions.
Vice-Chairman Morales complimented staff on providing a thorough investigation of the issues and facts.
It was moved by Commissioner Kiefer, seconded by Commissioner Lujan and passed by a 4-0-1 vote,
with Chairman Murray abstaining, to adopt Resolution No. 12-2757, modifying Conditions number 17 and
26, as discussed, and adding a new condition, requiring a review after six months.
Vice-Chairman Morales stated the action of the Planning Commission will be final unless the matter
is appealed to the City Council, with the appropriate fee, within the specified time period as set forth
in the City’s Ordinance.
Chairman Murray returned to the dais and was handed back the gavel.
2. PLN-11-00105 (CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT)
Location: 8206 Firestone Boulevard
Owner: Clara Levy Tr., et. al.
Applicant: Hayk Gervorkyan
Staff: William Davis
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CEQA: As required by the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA), this request
has been found to be Categorically Exempt from CEQA, per CEQA Guidelines,
Section 15301 (Class 1, Existing Facilities).
Request: A request to allow live entertainment consisting of a 600 sq. ft. dance floor, live
disc jockey, live music, karaoke, Go-Go dancers, and billiards, at Club DB
Lounge, on property zoned DDSP (Downtown Downey Specific Plan).
William Davis, City Planner, presented staff’s report and accompanying PowerPoint. His presentation
included a description of the property and its surrounding properties. He noted that the property shows 37
parking spaces, 21 pool tables (17 downstairs and 4 in the upstairs mezzanine.) A dance area has been
permitted; as well. Mr. Davis stated that the applicant has met the necessary parking by purchasing
parking credits. He added that the business operator had obtained a Police Permit to allow the
entertainment for billiards and dancing. However, the applicant is asking to expand the dancing portion of
the permit, to allow go-go dancers, which he has already begun to utilize.
In addressing staff’s recommendation, Mr. Davis stated that staff had concerns about the go-go dancers,
since they are described in the City’s Code definition of an adult cabaret. He indicated that he did not
believe this was the type of use the City wanted to allow in the Downtown. Mr. Davis stated that staff
supports the applicant’s request for dancing, live disc jockey, live music, karaoke and billiards, but does
not support that portion of the request to permit go-go dancers. The Resolution number supporting staff’s
recommendation is 12-2758.
The Planning Commissioners asked a number of questions regarding the floor plan of the property and
what was being proposed. They clarified that a C onditional Use Permit, once approved, stayed with the
land and was not restricted to the current business owner. The Commissioners asked what constitutes
the attire for go-go dancers. Commissioner Morales asked for clarification of Conditions 7 & 10.
Referencing Condition number 12, Commissioner Kiefer inquired if the lighting in the parking lot was
considered sufficient.
Mr. Davis stated that the attire, as viewed by photos the applicant has provided, involve skimpy outfits,
and the dancers dance above the floor, on raised speakers. H e stated that the business owner, Hayk
Gervorkyan claims that the dancing is not of a sexual nature. After receiving a comment from
Commissioner Morales, Mr. Davis added that for consistency, Condition #7 should state closing hour of
1:00 a.m., not 2:00 a.m. Mr. Davis also noted that there had been an incident at the property this past
weekend which involved a firearm. The altercation arose after the property owner attempted to enforce
the City-stated dress code.
Applicant’s representative, Adel Bazzi, architect, 8504 Firestone #155, Downey, addressed the
Commission. He provided history of how the busi ness evolved from “Downey’s Billiards”, which was
established 10 years earlier. He stated that the owner, Hayk Gervorkyan, has worked to keep the place
interesting and generate activity to counter the declining business. He described the current design, which
involved opening the first floor and placing the dance mezzanine between the pool tables. Mr. Bazzi
stated that they hoped to allow the two go-go dancers after 9:00 p.m. He stated that they have seen that
the go-go dancers increase the dance activity and hei ghten customer involvement (motivating dancers).
Mr. Bazzi provided photographs to the Commissioners s howing people, mostly women, on the beach in
bathing suits and then a series of photos showing typical attire of go-go dancers. He pointed out that the
go-go dancers attire is not as minimal as what is being worn at public beaches.
Addressing the number of musicians being requested as part of the entertainment restrictions (Condition
number 7), Commissioner Kiefer asked Mr. Bazzi if they are able to accept “no more than three
musicians”? Commissioner Murray was concerned about the hours the go-go dancers would be
employed. Commissioner Kiefer inquired about the type of food that was available. Vice Chairman
Morales queried, at what point does the billiards hall become a nightclub?
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Mr. Bazzi responded to questions/comments of the Commissi on, affirming that they will accept what the
Commission permits. He informed them that the dancers will work from about 9 to 11. He noted that they
have been operating with the dancer for several months, and that with 30-40 TVs, dancing and billiards
the club provides a combination of activities found in sportsbars, nightclubs, and lounges. He stated that
the dancing would occur Thursday thru Sunday, while the rest of the week is billiards only. The foods
served includes nachos and chicken wings.
Vice Chairman Morales asked Mr. Bazzi if their dancers wear similarly attired costumes as those shown
in the pictures? Mr. Bazzi affirmed that the outfits were short shirts and shorts, with boots, similar to
those shown. Discussion ensued regarding the dance attire of the go-go dancers and whether or not the
Commission would want to set a standard for the attire to address covering certain anatomical parts.
Determining that this was a difficult standard to re-address, the Commissioners decided it best not to
attempt such an undertaking.
Mr. Bazzi addressed Condition 10; he asked the Commission to permit the DJ to continue playing during
the final hour before closing.
Chairman Murray asked staff for any correspondence that had been received. Mr. Davis responded that
the only comments had come from the Police Dept. informing staff of the very recent unruly illegal
activities at the property. He informed the Commission that the City’s Police representative
was opposed to the go-go dancers, pointing out that it was a difficult are to regulate and control.
Chairman Murray asked Community Development Director Saeki his thoughts on the dancers.
Mr. Saeki responded that initially he was opposed to the idea, citing concerns of how the downtown area
might be affected. He also stated that after hearing the applicant this evening he is not so strongly
opinionated. He also reminded the Commissioners that the Conditional Use Permit approval runs with the
land, even if the business changes hands. He noted that with the approval of the Conditional Use Permit,
policies are in place to address problems that may occur.
Chairman Murray invited members of the public to address the Commission. There were no persons
present wishing to address the Commission.
Chairman Murray asked staff for their recommendation.
Mr. Davis stated staff’s recommendation is for approval as provided in Resolution No. 12-2758.
There being no questions regarding staff’s recommendation, Chairman Murray closed the public hearing.
Commission discussion:
Commissioner Kiefer complimented Mr. Gervorkyan and Mr. Bazzi for the recent improvements to the
building. He stated that he does not have a problem with allowing the live entertainment, but stated a
concern with go-go dancers in light of the future operations of the commercial developments of the
downtown.
Commissioner Garcia said that he could support the applicants’ request, with the conditions as
addressed. When asked his thoughts on the go-go dancers, he said he would be able to support this
request if they are properly attired.
Commissioner Morales complimented the applicant on the improvements to the façade and hoped
more of the neighboring businesses would follow suit. He also noted that he would like to see the
signs along this strip become more consistent. He stated that while he could support the request for
live entertainment, he was not sure the dancers would be a plus for the adjacent businesses. He
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Commissioner Morales asked to address Condition 10, noting that he would be ok with allowing the
disc jockey to continue play until closing. Discussion ensued. It was the consensus of the
Commissioners to allow the DJ to continue playing music until ½ hour before closing (1:30 a.m.), while
all other forms of entertainment would be required to end at 1:00 a.m.
Chairman Murray stated that he supported staff’s recommendation. He was very happy with the recent
improvements to the property, but he was not comfortable allowing the dancers. He said that allowing
the activity into the club would extend the same right to other businesses in the downtown.
Commissioner Morales agreed, stating that removing go-go dancers from the adult use category
would open this activity up through-out the City, and remove the City’s ability to control.
Mr. Adele Bazzi asked to re-address the Commissi on. Chairman Murray opened the hearing up again to
allow Mr. Bazzi’s comments.
Mr. Bazzi stated that Mr. Gervorkyan had just signed a 15-year lease with the property owner, stressing
that the business owner was committed to this location and would not walk away any time soon. He
asked the Commission to re-consider the issue of go-go dancers, at least for a six month period.
Commissioner Kiefer stated that scantily dressed wo men dancing on platforms is not what he wants for
the Downtown. More discussion followed.
Mr. Saeki reminded the Commissioners of the points m ade previously: the CUP runs with the land, even if
the applicant signed a 15-year lease; if the Commission does not approve the dancers portion of the
request tonight, the applicant can bring the request back after 12 months, should he want to make the
case again. He noted that even though the activity has been occurring for several months, that does not
make a case for continuing it or deeming it acceptable for our Downtown, even though it may appear to be
appropriate for Hollywood.
Commissioner Lujan added that the use will potentially create more problems down the road.
It was moved by Commissioner Kiefer, seconded by Commissioner Lujan and passed by a 5-0 vote, to
adopt Resolution No. 12-2758, approving Conditional Use Permit PLN-11-00105, modifying Condition 7,
changing 2:00 a.m. to 1:30 a.m .; and Condition #10, to allow entertainment to play until ½ hour before
closing, or 1:30 a.m.
Chairman Murray stated the action of the Planning Commission will be final unless the matter is
appealed to the City Council, with the appropriate fee, within the specified time period as set forth in
the City’s Ordinance.
3. PLN-12-00047 (SPECIAL EVENT)
Location: 11040 Brookshire Avenue
Owner: Downey Unified School District
Applicant: Downey High School Baseball Boosters
Staff: William Davis
CEQA: As required by the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA), this request
has been found to be Categorically Exempt from CEQA, per CEQA Guidelines,
Section 15304, (Class 4, Minor Alterations to Land).
Request: A request by Downey High School Baseball Boosters to conduct a three-day
carnival on March 16, 17, 18, 2012, which includes rides, game booths, and
food sales on the parking lot of Downey High School in the R-3 (Multiple-Family
Residential) zone.
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Chairman Murray opened the public hearing for Special Event PLN-12-00047. Ms. Donahue affirmed
proof of publication.
City Planner, William Davis, presented staff’s report and accompanying PowerPoint to the Commission,
noting staff’s recommendation is for approval, with the conditions as provided in attached Resolution No.
12-2759. Mr. Davis reviewed those conditions that the Commissioners have required for other carnival
approvals through-out the City, pointing out that t he applicant had already addressed those concerns by
providing security and clean-up crews, He also stat ed that parking for the event has been satisfactorily
provided. One item that Mr. Davis wanted the applicant to address was the set up and take down times.
Other than this, staff was satisfied with the proposed event as proposed.
Commissioner Morales stated that he assumed that the school had given its approval.
Mr. Davis affirmed that proper written authority had been provided.
Commissioner Kiefer inquired how many carnival s could be approved at this location, per year.
Mr. Davis stated, the Code limits a business to four Special Events per year. In addition he noted that
the applicant anticipates between 8,000 to 10,000 people to frequent the event. He noted that
applicant was present and would share with the Commission the purpose behind this fund-raising
event.
Heidi Llanes, 11040 Brookshire Avenue (school), addre ssed the Commission. Ms. Llanes explained
that she was the treasurer for the Downey Baseball Boosters. She provided some history behind her
past experience with fund raising and explained that carnivals are known to bring in good results.
She explained the reason behind their efforts is t hat they have the opportunity to improve their
baseball fields by participating in a program called “Baseball tomorrow”, whereby if they raise $25,000
they are eligible for matching funds for field improvement. She explained that they had applied for the
grant, and are in communications with the organization. However, it is imperative that the Boosters
raise the initial funds, in order to be eligible. She provided the timeline for the Commission. They
need to raise the money prior to April; then they w ill find out if they secured the grant. If they are
successful, they would be able to re-do the field during a short window of inactivity during the
summer.
Mr. Llanes stated that they had hired Helms and Sons to put the carnival on. The Boosters only job is
to sell the tickets, provide security, and coordinate clean-up. She provided a break-down to the
Commission of their share of the carnival proceeds. Ms. Llanes explained that the rides would be
dropped off during the week and set up would begin after 4:00, since it is a modified week for
students. She stated that they have arranged for security of the rides through the night, as well, and
they have six security persons to work during the carnival. They have been given permission to use
parking at Warren High School, if needed. Other items that Ms. Llanes addressed, include: 1) Their
security personnel are in contact with each other through radios; 2) They will have signs set up to
direct traffic; 3) Fifty baseball players will be working the lots for clean-up throughout the event;
4) They will have porta-potties on site; 5) There will be 30 carnival rides, plus 10 game booths and
there will be a vehicle raffle. Ms. Llanes asked to address Condition No. 10, whereby the carnival
clean-up must end at 10 p.m. on Sunday and asked that it be extended to 12:00. She stated that
there were no residential homes that would be impacted by the evening activity.
Chairman Murray expressed his observation, that Ms. Llanes had certainly done her homework on the
event planning.
Commissioners Lujan and Morales agreed. Commissioner Lujan noted that there was no dancing and
no live music associated with.
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Commissioner Morales clarified, if the grant is successful, when would the work begin?
Ms. Llanes stated that they hoped to work on the fields in June. She stated that if successful, they
hoped to have a opening day next year. In addition, she stated that the school has considered having
two carnivals per year, following this event.
Chairman Murray asked for any correspondence that had been received. Mr. Davis stated that no
correspondence had been received.
Chairman Murray invited the public to address the Commission. No one came forward at this time.
Chairman Murray asked staff to state their recommendation.
Mr. Davis stated, staff’s recommendation was for approval, as provided in the attached Resolution and
with the conditions as stated.
There being no questions regarding staff’s recommendation, Chairman Murray closed the public
hearing.
Commission discussion:
The Commissioner indicated that all concerns had been addressed. They noted that the funds were to
be used for a good cause, noting that with all the state budget cuts, public schools must find monies
through creative means. They noted that this was the first carnival being requested by a public school.
The Commissioners stated their support and hoped the event was successful.
It was moved by Commissioner Morales, seconded by Commissioner Garcia and passed by a 5-0
vote, to adopt Resolution No. 12-2759, modifying Condition No. 10, allowing clean-up until midnight.
VIII. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS :
No one came forward to address the Commission.
IX. OTHER BUSINESS: The Commission asked for updates to several sites, including:
1. Property south of Citibank, s/w corner Lakewood and Firestone; 2. The vacant properties on the
corners of Lakewood/Gallatin; 3. The former Massey Cadillac site; 4. Third stage of Lakewood
Boulevard improve ments. Community Development Director Saeki provided those updates. He also
informed the Commissioners of an upcoming Shopping Center event that stated he was enthusiastic that
the City would be participating in, since the opportunity to generate the interest of good business projects
was high.
X. ITEMS F OR FUTURE AGENDA: No further projects were addressed.
XI. ADJOURNMENT: at 8:40 p.m., to March 21, 2012 at 6:30 p.m. at Downey City Hall, 11111 Brookshire
Avenue, Downey, Ca. 90241 in memory of Cecilia Leal Moctezuma, daughter of Sara and Manuel Flores
and sister of Jessica Flores, Associate Planner for t he City of Downey, who died tragically in an accident
in Guatemala last night.
APPROVED AND ADOPTED this 21st day of March, 2012.
Michael Murray
Michael Murray, Chairman
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
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I HEREBY CERTIFY that the foregoing Minutes were duly approved at a Regular meeting of the
Planning Commission held on the 21st day of March, 2012, by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Lujan, Morales, Kiefer, Murray
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Garcia
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: None
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None
Theresa Donahue
Theresa Donahue, Secretary
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
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